Print-on-Demand Using CreateSpace: Some Beginning Questions

Cheryl Campbell

Cheryl Campbell

Continuing our conversation with author Cheryl Campbell

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Cheryl Campbell <> wrote:CreateSpace is cooking my brain. Not sure if I need to use this service or not.

I was going to list the ebook on Amazon KDB, and I thought I would do the POD print book here (please jump in if you have a different suggestion). But the pricing is looking really funky for a soft back book. A minimum price of $11.09 seems very steep to me.

And what is the Createspace eStore? How does this differ from Smashwords?

And down on the left side of the menu there is an option for Publish on Kindle...haven’t even gotten there. But if I was doing it on KDB, I wouldn’t need this extra piece, would I?

On Wednesday, July 31, 2013, Joel Canfield wrote:

CreateSpace eStore is a vestigial element of the days before they were bought by Amazon. It’s just an online store page for your book. It’s free. Does no good, but does no harm either. By some miracle it’s just possible someone might stumble on it and buy the paperback version. (It’s an “e” store because it’s online, not because it sells ebooks.)

How many pages is your book? Is it a color interior? That pricing seems wonky.

They do offer an automated “convert to Kindle” tool but I was a beta tester and unless they’ve seriously upgraded it, no, you don’t want that, you want to go direct to the KDP tools, as you say.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Cheryl Campbell <> wrote:In 6×9 its 484 pages total

So can i just do POD throught KDP and not use CreateSpace at all?

On Wednesday, July 31, 2013, Joel Canfield wrote:

Kindle doesn’t do print.

Yeah, a book that thick will be $6 printing cost, so with their minimum profit margin, that’s about the size of it.

You can order all the copies you want for $6 plus shipping (probably get 15 for $100 if you’re in the US, which would be $6.67 each.) At that price you could sell them in person for $9 and be making a profit at a really low price.

But $11 or $12 isn’t a lot for a good book that’s 500 pages long. Your fans won’t mind, I don’t think. And if they’re budget conscious, there’s always the very inexpensive digital version.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Cheryl Campbell <> wrote:Ok thanks. So if I set the book up on CreateSpace, if someone goes thru Amazon to order it in print, CreateSpace handles the print and shipping? And I can also order my own print copies from Amazon at cost plus shipping? Just trying to make sure i understand…. Brain is still on night shift and fogged today.


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Joel Canfield <> wrote:

Yes. Sorry I haven’t been clearer; I keep assuming you can read my mind and fill in the bits I’m not saying out loud.

Customer orders from Amazon. Amazon ships. No cost to you. Profit of 1/2 of net ($6 printing, $12 sale, you get +/- $3.)

Customer orders from CreateSpace’s almost invisible page. More or less same results.

You order from Amazon. You pay full price. You feel foolish. You don’t do that again.

You order from CreateSpace. You pay printing plus shipping. You realize you should order more than one copy, since the shipping for one book is about $4 but the shipping for 12 books is about $8. You never ever pay for expedited shipping because their rates go way up real fast (like, it can cost $30 for 2-day shipping for a proof copy. It’s insane.)

Make sense now? Have I left out anything else that seems obvious to me, but really isn’t? (The curse of knowledge. Makes seeing your face much more important in a conversation like this, which is why real life beats the internet all day long and twice on Sunday.)

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Cheryl Campbell <> wrote:Makes sense. So I set up CreateSpace but that’s really MY outlet for ordering print books, but anyone else can order thru them too.

And probably most of the masses will go to Amazon anyway to buy the print book.

Next question, when you order books to keep on hand and sell yourself, do you tend to keep a certain number? How many should you bring with you if you’re taking them to a local brick and mortar store?

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Joel Canfield <> wrote:

We just keep a one or two of each book, and a few extra of the two we sell the most (Commonsense Virtual Assistant and Getting Your Book Out of the Someday Box.)

I’ve never approached a physical store about carrying my books. Thinking about seeing if the library would like hard cover copies, though.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Cheryl Campbell <> wrote:Thanks for the info on the books! I know I will be tempted to get several…I’ll just have to remind myself that the more I have, I’ll need a place to put them!

I had one of my beta readers get back to me (she didn’t forget me after all!) and she was mailing me the manuscript back early this week. So it should be there by the time I get home on Friday. So I’ll review that for any edits/suggestions/issues/typos and then post the ebook and print book on Amazon/CreateSpace this weekend if all goes well. I’m super excited!!!

I have a trip to the UK in early Sept and was really wanting to have the book ready to rock and roll. I’m doing the photography for an international company’s annual soccer tournament, held in England this year. I am going to hand out business cards to the players to the link where I’ll post the pics online for them to download. And I was going to tack on a little marketing onto the cards too regarding the books. And I really wanted to surprise my brother and sister in law with a copy of the book when I met up with them in England. Good thing I’m on night shift tonight. I’m wound right up all excited about this stuff!! 🙂

Have a great night!


Continued tomorrow.

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